Barbara Marx Hubbard | Giving birth to a new humanity

I woke up the other morning and said to myself, “Barbara, you have made your transition…and you’re still here.” I’ve made my transition in the sense that I already have the universal consciousness and I realize my part in our current evolutionary phase. I’m eight-four on December 22 and I’ve been working toward this all my life. I’m not newly born into this way of thinking. And anyone who is actually doing their part to create the universal human, and has an understanding of what I’m saying, can claim to be post-transition—ready to accept their own qualities, which they have projected onto higher beings, as their own. I’m calling on them to take a stance of being members of the new humanity. It’s easier to do this if you have at least one resonant partner to do it with you. It’s very difficult to do alone.

I’ll be teaching this in my next course on The Shift Network. I’m calling it “Generation One, 2.0.” Generation One consists of everyone alive on Earth right now, and 2.0 are those who realize that we’re participating in our own evolution. I’ll teach about how to create “co-creative cores,” how to bring in the higher dimensions of your universal self, and how to join together to co-create a culture.

It’s not going to be easy, but it’s going to be natural, because Nature has been creating whole systems for billions of years. We don’t have to make it all up. We’re picking it up from the way Nature evolves.

The MOON: What do you think this new world we’re evolving will look like? I heard a podcast with you on The Shift Network, during which you said that giving birth is a different process from “manifesting,” which, as I understand it, is bringing a vision, an idea, into physical existence. No one has ever seen this new world we’re birthing, however. How do you envision it?

Marx Hubbard: Imagine going into deep time past and think of yourself as a single cell trying to imagine animals, or think of yourself as a very early pre-human trying to imagine homo sapiens. It’s not possible. Evolution creates radical newness. We’re going to be facing something new. How I intuit that “something new” is being a member of a living planetary body, where the genius of each part gets connected to the genius of every other part, with results that are quantum from what is possible now. This reality is going to be so different that our current problems—such as war, disease, hunger—won’t even be in the picture because we’ll find we’re part of a universe teeming with life.

The MOON: You mean we’re going to leave the planet?

Marx Hubbard: We’re going to be on the planet, aware that we’re universal beings, with a nervous system like the Noosphere, or global brain, already connected into a shared intelligence system so that everything that humans know will be available to all humans. That knowledge is already available now, but not as a unified system, as the design of how to operate a planet. The design is implicit in the knowledge, but it’s not connected. When we connect the dots, when we realize that all the pieces work together, we will become capable of overcoming the illusion of separateness that has kept us apart. We’ll be able to feel our connection as part of one body. We’ll feel that the one body has so much greater capacity than any of us do alone—just as a human body has so much more capacity than a single cell within the body; or even a single organ within the body. No one knows for sure what will happen then, but I like what Jose Arguelles has hypothesized. He says that when the thinking layer of the global brain, or Noosphere*, gets filled with enough people like us who are in a state of love and compassion, then communication will happen telepathically, which will be much faster than communicating one-by-one-by one. It will be almost instantaneous. And when that happens on a planet we become a morphogenic resonant field, as Rupert Sheldrake describes, a coordinated consciousness. At that point, we’ll be able to communicate the same way with any other planet that has achieved the same state with its thinking layer or global brain.

It’s not about leaving the Earth in spacecraft, even though people will probably do that. It’s about being in touch with a bio-communication system. That’s my sense of it anyway; that’s my intuition. We’ll also probably have really profound life extension and longevity. We’ll have massive acceleration of communication, which will become a self-correcting intelligence system working in concert with human intelligence. We’ll have nanotechnology that will enable atom-by-atom and cell-by cell construction and assembly, which some people believe will eliminate any kind of disease or malfunction in anyone’s body. These are quantum capacities that are in the works now.

The MOON: Aren’t you concerned that this capacity will be used for greed, or other evil purposes like the creation of a slave class, as in the book Cloud Atlas, rather than for global oneness?

Marx Hubbard: It’s exactly true. We’ll have the capacity to do both. God put freedom in the system.

The MOON: So what do you see as the most effective strategies for ensuring that our powers are used for good, as you asked so long ago?

Marx Hubbard: I think there’s a lot that could be said about that. The first thing we have to do is identify which technologies are really dangerous and stop them, like thermonuclear war, for example. The idea that we have twelve hundred nuclear bombs pointed at Russia, and vice versa, is insane. Nuclear waste is also a real danger. It’s probably true that GMOs and the whole corporate agriculture system are dangerous. The pollution of the food system is a huge problem. We have to be aware of the dangers and stop them.

But we also need to realize the potential of enough of us moving into a state of compassion, wholeness, and desiring the good of the whole, and using technology to amplify our powers towards these ends. So the question is, how many people can enter this state and create a different paradigm—and how quickly can they do it? When we reach a certain number of empathic people who are connected, we’ll reach critical mass.

The MOON: So am I understanding you correctly? You see creating the new world as a more effective strategy than protesting nuclear war, or climate change, or GMOs?

Marx Hubbard: I think we have to do both. We have to oppose what’s dangerous. But I think our job will be easier if we’re simultaneously working on alternatives that are better—such as new communities, renewable energies, clean food, global understanding rather than war. Nature tends to select for what works, so when we create more workable solutions, they will be adopted. That’s why we’re here after billions of years.

Even when you look at prior mass extinctions, life has always survived to evolve rather than been completely wiped out. Something has emerged that is better. It is Nature’s tendency to select for the potential for higher consciousness. In that sense, I don’t believe we’re in a neutral Universe. I believe there’s a tendency for those of us who are wholeness-oriented and Spirit-centered to be empowered.

The MOON: That’s good to know. Is that why Dr. Raymond Moody, and others, has sometimes described global catastrophic events as “evolutionary triggers”?

Marx Hubbard: I’m not familiar with the context of Dr. Moody’s statement, but I do believe that the global waves of shock and compassion that have followed events such as 9/11, the tsunamis in Thailand and Japan, Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy, and most recently Typhoon Haiyan, constitute evidence that our awareness is beginning to extend far beyond our physical bodies to the larger global organism of which we are a part.

The MOON: I’d like to circle back and ask again about the importance of stopping, or opposing, that which we see as dangerous because I have so often been told by spiritual people that I must not resist anything, because “what you resist persists.”

Marx Hubbard: There are other strategies besides opposition. You can make a difference with your purchase decisions—with the type of car you drive, with the type of food you buy, for example.

The MOON: Yes, but wasn’t resistance necessary to end slavery, or segregation, or win women the right to vote, or stop the war in Vietnam?

Marx Hubbard: Yes, I do think resistance is part of the solution. I think, for example, that widespread protests—by both conservatives and progressives—stopped us from bombing Syria. But military institutions are among the most difficult to change. My brother-in-law, Daniel Ellsberg, has devoted most of his life to trying to stop nuclear proliferation and advocate for the abolishment of nuclear weapons. He’s written dozens of books and articles on it, yet he isn’t very optimistic about changing the military mindset unless there’s a huge groundswell of public opinion against war and in favor of other solutions. So I don’t want you to think resistance isn’t sometimes necessary. I simply think that resistance will be more successful if we can point people to alternatives that work.

The MOON: I’ve heard you describe suprasexual co-creativity. I was very interested in that. (Laughs)

Marx Hubbard: (Laughs too) It is very interesting! Suprasexual co-creativity is another evolutionary response to our times. When we hit a limit to procreation in terms of Earth’s carrying capacity, women started to shift from maximum procreation to maximum co-creation. By this I mean women began to give birth to their own creative self in the world as a feminine co-creator, rather than a feminine pro-creator. Many people are now choosing to have fewer children, or no children.

People are also living longer and so, when women hit fifty, or sixty, or like me, eighty, they enter “regenopause.” This is a stage in which you yourself become the egg and you give birth to your own creativity. When that happens, you enter suprasex: you join your genius to co-create, rather than your genes to pro-create. You become attracted to partners who need what you have to give, and who have what you need in order to create. I think suprasexuality is just as exciting to those who are looking to co-create as sexuality is to those who are looking to pro-create.

The MOON: You used to be described as a futurist. Do you still think of yourself in that way, or has the world caught up with your vision?

Marx Hubbard:  I’m a presentist now.  Trying to catch up with the present!

* Noosphere: the sphere of human consciousness, or thought, as described by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Vladimir Vernadsky, and others.